How can the game still be so bad and unentertaining after 4 years? Unfortunately the many people who criticize the game were right, I caught up again with the updates 4 days ago and the game now that I look at it properly is really bad, a shame since I have been playing this game since 2020, and I even suppose that after so long not many people play it and it really doesn't surprise me since no one talks about the game, good luck btw. I gonna leave the game and go to others games.
I got the event about Ame servicing a customer whom Sergil previously bumped into when she wasn't wearing underwear. The problem - I haven't recruited Ame yet.
There's porn in this amazing cafe simulator? The animations are good, and the story is just as good as the game elements. Definitely recommend giving it a play and supporting if you have the means!
Are you able to make the download not be an app for mac Because every time I try to download it it becomes an app and my Macbook will not work with it. Please and thank you if you can.
Hey, yeah, I didn't have time to upload into more places yesterday so I stuck with the previous ones. Right now I uploaded bugfixes to the builds and added 2 extra links to mac you can use.
Understandable, unfortunately the delay was mostly because of coding problems and life issues I have lately. Sorry for that, hopefully there won't be next delay like that.
Four years of progress and it shows. There's so much content here. Gameplay is unique as far as H-games go and does a great job of making it feel like running a cafe. The UI is a bit overwhelming at first but it's aesthetically pleasing overall. MC and the girls have their own charms and no one's been outright annoying so far. I'm a little sad the character I initially found most attractive is my least favorite archetype, but I've found more than enough comfort in the other girls.
Some feedback:
- The hotkey layout for food/drink is a bit tough to adopt. Even with all the keys mostly memorized, 7 of each food/drink extending out to U/J means the left hand can't stay on ASDF, making hotkey use fairly frustrating.
- It'd be nice to have the important stats (cash, cleanliness, maid energy%) visible on the action menu as well as in the Backrooms menu. In the latter, money is shown but despite being able to move girls around, energy and cleanliness seem to require going back and forth between Chat and Shop respectively.
- An in-game log for both dialogue and cafe events would be awesome. There's been a few times I missed a conversation detail and couldn't go back to fully understand the situation.
Overall, I'm really glad I found this gem. Looking forward to more. Please keep up the awesome work!
Ok, so i may be stupid, but when you finish sending messeges to a client, the book says that it is unlocked in the maid's client chat menu. Where is this menu? Do I have something else to see the scene? I'm feeling like the biggest idiot...
Hey, that's okay, game still needs a tutorial that I plan to implement as one of the last things before final releases. Client chat menu is in the same place where you can chat with the maid, in the locker room at the end of the day menu.
just joined in on everything and woohooo 4th anniversary!! I was shook when I saw 4th like has it really been 4 years!? So I went to check on updates and gaaaahdamn! you guys have gone through a lot! Glad I came across your game ^^ Excited for how far we can go! yipeeeeeee
Buddy, why not add more animation to the game during gameplay? For example, Sergil comes into glory hall and watches how the girls work. Or add a room for sex. So that the girls can serve the customers after the dance. Individual events from pictures and animations are of course good, but this is not a RenPy game, I would like more elements in the gameplay.
Hey, yup, that's something Im working on, for example when you'll use flirt or special care, it will be represented in animation during gameplay. VIP room will be also redone and have added seggs animations and a couple of more things like that.
Thanks for the reply, I look forward to similar updates in the game. Your game is unique, brother, and it is the gameplay and the netorase atmosphere that are unique. Congratulations on the 4th anniversary of the game!
Hey, screenshot in game I don't think I will. Can you maybe explain to me why would you want it? You can actually already re-read what was said if you use your mouse wheel up to scroll up.
I sadly still have to mention that the Mac version still won't work with olders versions of MacOS. The last version I could use was v0.8.31. Any new discoveries/updates on the matter?
Please tell me what I can do to reduce the cleanliness level. I want to solve Ame's task, but no matter what I do, my cleanliness level cannot drop below 50%.
Hey, there also a couple of more triggers you have to fullfill that are basically progressing their story. you have to see cookie's drinking event (the point and click one), have a drink night with cynthia and cookie and then see the event where cynthia is teasing you and cookie about 'something'. Hope it helps!
I have all the events open except for this one and I have reviewed all the events with Cookie and all the events in which she participated. I played for about 50 days, hoping for a random one. But the event never started.
If this problem still happens, can you come over to Discord and send me your save file so I can check it and try to fix it in game? Sorry for the issue.
Synth-IA is a perk that unlocks after seeing certain event from Cynthia. It is basically telling you why and what kind of person Cynthia is, so this perk becomes avaliable. Hope it helps!
Also wanna say smth about balance and money management. Maybe I'm wrong, but... Is that OK, what for lots of hours I upgraded girls, abilities and act and had only 2000, 3000 and at least 5000$ per day and thought, that I'm a great lucky if make 7k, but, science I just buy wolf ability for Amy and from next day make 15-20k??? Wtf? Isn't it imbalance? Well.. maybe usual cash should be 20~30% more, but Yandere make 2.5~3x tip? Or something like that. Because without using (abusing??) her ability you literally have no add money, but with it... you lost any reason to PLAY in maid gameplay after 5~10 days
Don't need the reason to explain about that simple «Wolf» abuse, but if you need, I'll do
Yeah, you are right, it's quite unbalanced yet, but balance will be more of the issue near the final version of the game, for now it's just adjustments, but thanks for letting me know about Ame Wolf skill!
For now, I spent about 30 (50?) hours and wanna thanks for your great work!
But I want to tell some thoughts about game. I understand , that you don't want to make your game in visual novel (however you create a skip day stone 😅), but what about those, who wants just play "maid simulator"? Don't wanna say fk this story or smth, but.. Sometimes just want to grind and don't spend time on reading. You create a simple story and pers, but quite interesting dialogues!! So when I skip something for playing, I regret for skipped something interesting :/
Maybe.. at least you should make one more button for «chat»? For example, «spend time with» will just add some stats and show random usual meeting, but second button «new»(any name) will follow the history with selected girl (and add stats). Second button will be active if you follow the main history or smth like that
I'm glad you are enjoying the game! Sorry for late reply, I had very stressful couple of weeks.
Regarding your question, the most important thing I want to make is a 'Game'. Not a visual book (VN) and not just gameplay, I want to connect gameplay and story, have visual representations of progressing in story in gameplay etc. I understand sometimes you don't care about the story (Sometimes I have it the same), but for now you don't have to worry, because we are still in development phase of the game, so things might change. But I don't think I'll be changing the way we are progressing the story (right now its based on Popularity points).
Don't worry, sometimes, shit just heppends ^) I hope you will fine :)
Apout "progress based on Pop points" and other things... Maybe, I eyeless but..
I read the training over and over again, but I saw nothing about it. Maybe you should make a couple of additional slides indicating the purpose of the characteristics of the heroines? How to say... Yes, there was almost no need for this while pumping the skills of the girls, but after that it becomes unclear whether they need to be improved further? For example, if I continue to pump the girl's charm, will she attract customers from the street faster? Maybe some kind of tip ratio is more from this? Will they want more in special rooms?
The more I write, the more questions))
Is there any difference in who I send to the guys in the VIP room or to the hole? Does preference affect income if you send a guest's favorite to the VIP hall?
Yes, I had that thought. IN general, I do not ask for anything and do not insist, but if the development continues to be long and thorough, then it would be possible to add a blind dating room. Just thinking out loud:)
I read the training over and over again, but I saw nothing about it. Maybe you should make a couple of additional slides indicating the purpose of the characteristics of the heroines? How to say... Yes, there was almost no need for this while pumping the skills of the girls, but after that it becomes unclear whether they need to be improved further? For example, if I continue to pump the girl's charm, will she attract customers from the street faster? Maybe some kind of tip ratio is more from this? Will they want more in special rooms?
The more I write, the more questions))
Is there any difference in who I send to the guys in the VIP room or to the hole? Does preference affect income if you send a guest's favorite to the VIP hall?
Yes, I had that thought. IN general, I do not ask for anything and do not insist, but if the development continues to be long and thorough, then it would be possible to add a blind dating room. Just thinking out loud:)
Really had a good time with this game. It's got fun premise and characters and the visuals are pretty solid. However the cafe mini game takes up a lot of your active play time and suffers from some poor UI/UX. Really would've like to continue but when the back rooms got added with a bunch of other things to worry about without really simplifying the existing systems I couldn't stick with it.
I agree with you there. That's unfortunately why i ended up dropping it too. It definitely was a fun experience up till the backrooms were added, at least for me.
looks great but I have to ask does this have a choice to skip gameplay content since I'm more interested in story and don't like the grind and stress of management games
Hey, sorry but no, it doesn't have skip gameplay button, it's for a reason though. I don't want to make just visual novels, I want to make engaging gameplay in both current game and my next one. So even if I'm okay with cheating by modifying the save of the game, I won't be making anything to make player skip gameplay entirely. There is a ''skip day' button that you can't overuse or bad ending appears (if you are close to overusing you just need to play one day fully to reset it) and you can't skip bosses, so that's the minimal of gameplay I really do want to keep.
This game is really great, with a rich system, high-quality storyline, and perfect original graphics that perfectly match my preferences. I hope the author can add more NTR content and Chinese language.
Hey there! On Monday I added a Mac build to the Release Post on Patreon/Subsribestar. I’ve spent some time on it, searching through documentation and reinstalling the game's engine and applying apple key’s again. I think I fixed the issues with previous versions of Mac System not wanting to start. Do notice that Engine supports only from 10.9 MacOS forward, and all previous versions are not guaranteed to work and there is nothing I can do about it. Mac ventura beeing version 13.0 should work now. Public update should be in a day or two.
Sorry to bother you, I figured out that I have the 14.5 sonoma mac version. The new update still is not compatible. Is there anything I am able to do on my side?
Hey, to be honest it should work on 14.5, as the GMS engine (the thing im working on) supports versions from 10.9 allegedly. Can you send me on discord what error exactly do you get?
Hey there. I'm also still having the same issue with the latest version of the game. The error that pops up is: "You can’t open the application “Secret_Care_Cafe” because this application is not supported on this Mac." I'm running Ventura 13.6.8 (cannot upgrade to Sonoma any further). I haven't been able to update the game version beyond v0.8.31 so it's an issue that's been present for the past few updates.
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How can I obtain an "idear"
How can the game still be so bad and unentertaining after 4 years? Unfortunately the many people who criticize the game were right, I caught up again with the updates 4 days ago and the game now that I look at it properly is really bad, a shame since I have been playing this game since 2020, and I even suppose that after so long not many people play it and it really doesn't surprise me since no one talks about the game, good luck btw. I gonna leave the game and go to others games.
Sometimes in the scenes the screen stays grey or on the loading screen. How can I fix this?
im having the same issue. have you found a way to fix it yet?
I got the event about Ame servicing a customer whom Sergil previously bumped into when she wasn't wearing underwear. The problem - I haven't recruited Ame yet.
Day 44 and the rooms are still blocked, when does the 2nd boss appear? Is it a mistake?
I need help
There's porn in this amazing cafe simulator?
The animations are good, and the story is just as good as the game elements. Definitely recommend giving it a play and supporting if you have the means!
Are you able to make the download not be an app for mac Because every time I try to download it it becomes an app and my Macbook will not work with it. Please and thank you if you can.
there are still only two downloads for mac.
Hey, yeah, I didn't have time to upload into more places yesterday so I stuck with the previous ones. Right now I uploaded bugfixes to the builds and added 2 extra links to mac you can use.
I really love this game but after all this delay I expected a big update! What happened to adding a new maid?
Understandable, unfortunately the delay was mostly because of coding problems and life issues I have lately. Sorry for that, hopefully there won't be next delay like that.
New maid is coming!
Can you make it easier to download a Mac ?
How would you like me to make it easier? Also seperate it to 4 parts?
Could you put more options to downloaded.Cuz for me and probably others It is too complicated or won't work.
Ok, with next update I'll put 2 more options to download, from Pixeldrain and gofile.
Just wondering when the next update would be then. And thanks
43 days without updates. I can't feel my legs anymore...
Update is out
It didn't help, in fact, the update is 1 event that is not available to free users, and everything else is just recycling.
Don't worry, next one will be a nice one
Top notch.
Four years of progress and it shows. There's so much content here. Gameplay is unique as far as H-games go and does a great job of making it feel like running a cafe. The UI is a bit overwhelming at first but it's aesthetically pleasing overall. MC and the girls have their own charms and no one's been outright annoying so far. I'm a little sad the character I initially found most attractive is my least favorite archetype, but I've found more than enough comfort in the other girls.
Some feedback:
- The hotkey layout for food/drink is a bit tough to adopt. Even with all the keys mostly memorized, 7 of each food/drink extending out to U/J means the left hand can't stay on ASDF, making hotkey use fairly frustrating.
- It'd be nice to have the important stats (cash, cleanliness, maid energy%) visible on the action menu as well as in the Backrooms menu. In the latter, money is shown but despite being able to move girls around, energy and cleanliness seem to require going back and forth between Chat and Shop respectively.
- An in-game log for both dialogue and cafe events would be awesome. There's been a few times I missed a conversation detail and couldn't go back to fully understand the situation.
Overall, I'm really glad I found this gem. Looking forward to more. Please keep up the awesome work!
For some reason Ame events is not coming for me, i have takeout 5, but have 1/12 unlocks, and i am not getting any more, what to do?
Hey, can you come over to discord and print screen me exactly what do you mean, because I don't think I understand. Sorry for the issue.
figured it out myself, had forgotten to put on the pin ( or it was removed as i did it to early)
Ok, so i may be stupid, but when you finish sending messeges to a client, the book says that it is unlocked in the maid's client chat menu. Where is this menu? Do I have something else to see the scene? I'm feeling like the biggest idiot...
Hey, that's okay, game still needs a tutorial that I plan to implement as one of the last things before final releases.
Client chat menu is in the same place where you can chat with the maid, in the locker room at the end of the day menu.
korean language update plz
I'll try my best!
When is the next update??
Hey, sorry for late reply, new update will be this week.
just joined in on everything and woohooo 4th anniversary!! I was shook when I saw 4th like has it really been 4 years!? So I went to check on updates and gaaaahdamn! you guys have gone through a lot! Glad I came across your game ^^
Excited for how far we can go! yipeeeeeee
Haha thank you! Glad you like the game <3
Buddy, why not add more animation to the game during gameplay? For example, Sergil comes into glory hall and watches how the girls work. Or add a room for sex. So that the girls can serve the customers after the dance. Individual events from pictures and animations are of course good, but this is not a RenPy game, I would like more elements in the gameplay.
Hey, yup, that's something Im working on, for example when you'll use flirt or special care, it will be represented in animation during gameplay. VIP room will be also redone and have added seggs animations and a couple of more things like that.
Thanks for the reply, I look forward to similar updates in the game. Your game is unique, brother, and it is the gameplay and the netorase atmosphere that are unique. Congratulations on the 4th anniversary of the game!
can you add a way to take screenshots in game? also a window to re-read what was said before?
Hey, screenshot in game I don't think I will. Can you maybe explain to me why would you want it? You can actually already re-read what was said if you use your mouse wheel up to scroll up.
In the boss3 event, when you give a number to the men in the white jacket, then you talk to them and then agree, what happens after that? 😕
Nothing yet, there will be a series of events that I'm currently making.
What's the new event😕?
I sadly still have to mention that the Mac version still won't work with olders versions of MacOS. The last version I could use was v0.8.31.
Any new discoveries/updates on the matter?
When is the next update??
Hopefully tomorrow!
I see spaces for 6 maids, can anyone tell me how to get 5th and 6th maids?
Not available yet ☹️ I hope soon
Very Soon™
Please tell me what I can do to reduce the cleanliness level. I want to solve Ame's task, but no matter what I do, my cleanliness level cannot drop below 50%.
Send any girl to the glory hole and let her work. And make sure there is no one in the back room.
Wheres the android option at?!
I can't start a new event with cookies. the favor is 200+ and it seems like the relationship is already sexual, but nothing happens.
Hey, there also a couple of more triggers you have to fullfill that are basically progressing their story.
you have to see cookie's drinking event (the point and click one), have a drink night with cynthia and cookie and then see the event where cynthia is teasing you and cookie about 'something'. Hope it helps!
I have all the events open except for this one and I have reviewed all the events with Cookie and all the events in which she participated. I played for about 50 days, hoping for a random one. But the event never started.
This one is a chat event, not a random one.
If this problem still happens, can you come over to Discord and send me your save file so I can check it and try to fix it in game? Sorry for the issue.
Waiting Room Version 0.8.40
Waiting over! Sorry for that!
And sorry for stupid question, but after ~40 hours I still don't understand how to unlock «Synth-IA» perk for Blondie.
Max up all her other perks? Max up all other perks of her and other girls? End all storylines of her and clients ? Reach some point at main story?
Can't even find answer from net :/
Synth-IA is a perk that unlocks after seeing certain event from Cynthia. It is basically telling you why and what kind of person Cynthia is, so this perk becomes avaliable. Hope it helps!
Also wanna say smth about balance and money management. Maybe I'm wrong, but... Is that OK, what for lots of hours I upgraded girls, abilities and act and had only 2000, 3000 and at least 5000$ per day and thought, that I'm a great lucky if make 7k, but, science I just buy wolf ability for Amy and from next day make 15-20k??? Wtf? Isn't it imbalance? Well.. maybe usual cash should be 20~30% more, but Yandere make 2.5~3x tip? Or something like that. Because without using (abusing??) her ability you literally have no add money, but with it... you lost any reason to PLAY in maid gameplay after 5~10 days
Don't need the reason to explain about that simple «Wolf» abuse, but if you need, I'll do
p.s. Sorry for my English :/
Yeah, you are right, it's quite unbalanced yet, but balance will be more of the issue near the final version of the game, for now it's just adjustments, but thanks for letting me know about Ame Wolf skill!
Well, hello )
For now, I spent about 30 (50?) hours and wanna thanks for your great work!
But I want to tell some thoughts about game. I understand , that you don't want to make your game in visual novel (however you create a skip day stone 😅), but what about those, who wants just play "maid simulator"? Don't wanna say fk this story or smth, but.. Sometimes just want to grind and don't spend time on reading. You create a simple story and pers, but quite interesting dialogues!! So when I skip something for playing, I regret for skipped something interesting :/
Maybe.. at least you should make one more button for «chat»? For example, «spend time with» will just add some stats and show random usual meeting, but second button «new»(any name) will follow the history with selected girl (and add stats). Second button will be active if you follow the main history or smth like that
I'm glad you are enjoying the game! Sorry for late reply, I had very stressful couple of weeks.
Regarding your question, the most important thing I want to make is a 'Game'. Not a visual book (VN) and not just gameplay, I want to connect gameplay and story, have visual representations of progressing in story in gameplay etc. I understand sometimes you don't care about the story (Sometimes I have it the same), but for now you don't have to worry, because we are still in development phase of the game, so things might change. But I don't think I'll be changing the way we are progressing the story (right now its based on Popularity points).
I hope you'll enjoy even more! <3
Don't worry, sometimes, shit just heppends ^)
I hope you will fine :)
Apout "progress based on Pop points" and other things... Maybe, I eyeless but..
I read the training over and over again, but I saw nothing about it. Maybe you should make a couple of additional slides indicating the purpose of the characteristics of the heroines? How to say... Yes, there was almost no need for this while pumping the skills of the girls, but after that it becomes unclear whether they need to be improved further? For example, if I continue to pump the girl's charm, will she attract customers from the street faster? Maybe some kind of tip ratio is more from this? Will they want more in special rooms?
The more I write, the more questions))
Is there any difference in who I send to the guys in the VIP room or to the hole? Does preference affect income if you send a guest's favorite to the VIP hall?
Yes, I had that thought. IN general, I do not ask for anything and do not insist, but if the development continues to be long and thorough, then it would be possible to add a blind dating room. Just thinking out loud:)
I read the training over and over again, but I saw nothing about it. Maybe you should make a couple of additional slides indicating the purpose of the characteristics of the heroines? How to say... Yes, there was almost no need for this while pumping the skills of the girls, but after that it becomes unclear whether they need to be improved further? For example, if I continue to pump the girl's charm, will she attract customers from the street faster? Maybe some kind of tip ratio is more from this? Will they want more in special rooms?
The more I write, the more questions))
Is there any difference in who I send to the guys in the VIP room or to the hole? Does preference affect income if you send a guest's favorite to the VIP hall?
Yes, I had that thought. IN general, I do not ask for anything and do not insist, but if the development continues to be long and thorough, then it would be possible to add a blind dating room. Just thinking out loud:)
I hope that they will add animations from the camera to the VIP room
I will! But focusing on few other things first <3
Really had a good time with this game. It's got fun premise and characters and the visuals are pretty solid. However the cafe mini game takes up a lot of your active play time and suffers from some poor UI/UX. Really would've like to continue but when the back rooms got added with a bunch of other things to worry about without really simplifying the existing systems I couldn't stick with it.
I agree with you there. That's unfortunately why i ended up dropping it too. It definitely was a fun experience up till the backrooms were added, at least for me.
Same bro, it's too overwhelming
looks great but I have to ask does this have a choice to skip gameplay content since I'm more interested in story and don't like the grind and stress of management games
Hey, sorry but no, it doesn't have skip gameplay button, it's for a reason though. I don't want to make just visual novels, I want to make engaging gameplay in both current game and my next one. So even if I'm okay with cheating by modifying the save of the game, I won't be making anything to make player skip gameplay entirely.
There is a ''skip day' button that you can't overuse or bad ending appears (if you are close to overusing you just need to play one day fully to reset it) and you can't skip bosses, so that's the minimal of gameplay I really do want to keep.
Sorry if its asked before but will there be an android version soon? The game looks interesting i cant wait to play it !
Hey, android version should be closer to the final release of the game as that version requires a lot of more work from me.
May I ask when the Android version will be released?
how do you unlock backrooms
Hey, after beating 2nd boss just progress the story by couple of days and it should unlock.
what day does second boss spawn? im on day 20+ and the objective just says "more content coming soon"
Hey, It's an end of the day event after setting up a date with Ame.
it's not working for me either
This game is really great, with a rich system, high-quality storyline, and perfect original graphics that perfectly match my preferences. I hope the author can add more NTR content and Chinese language.
What are idea points? AND HOW DO I GET THEM?????
You get them in the self-care backroom, where there are books, you can read about those in the Backrooms upgrades
Sorry if this sounds repetitive. But are there any plans to update the Mac download to work with the mentioned Ventura version of Macs?
Hey there!
On Monday I added a Mac build to the Release Post on Patreon/Subsribestar. I’ve spent some time on it, searching through documentation and reinstalling the game's engine and applying apple key’s again. I think I fixed the issues with previous versions of Mac System not wanting to start. Do notice that Engine supports only from 10.9 MacOS forward, and all previous versions are not guaranteed to work and there is nothing I can do about it. Mac ventura beeing version 13.0 should work now. Public update should be in a day or two.
Sorry to bother you, I figured out that I have the 14.5 sonoma mac version. The new update still is not compatible. Is there anything I am able to do on my side?
Is it still not working for you
Hey, to be honest it should work on 14.5, as the GMS engine (the thing im working on) supports versions from 10.9 allegedly. Can you send me on discord what error exactly do you get?
Sorry for the issue.
Hey there.
I'm also still having the same issue with the latest version of the game.
The error that pops up is:
"You can’t open the application “Secret_Care_Cafe” because this application is not supported on this Mac."
I'm running Ventura 13.6.8 (cannot upgrade to Sonoma any further).
I haven't been able to update the game version beyond v0.8.31 so it's an issue that's been present for the past few updates.
Thank you for your time and efforts!