Things really opened up once I figured out the game mechanics and started making money. The pics from abilities are a great bonus imo; I didn’t expect most of what I saw and I was really into the slippery slope that the girls went down😳
The animated cgs and the end of day events were great as well! Can’t wait for future updates!
Thanks for checking out the builds! There is a lot of content for both MC and for the clients. Most (not all) of the H events are for MC and most of the in-game cgs are for clients. Harem route is not existing yet (outside of valentines event). I do have plans for it but first I will be focusing on other parts of the game. First is important for me to create relationships of MC x each of the girls, that will transform into Harem possibility much later.
Hey, Of course MC scenes have CGs. With 'In-game' I was referring to the Gameplay-Loop part of the game (the part where you drag and drop maids, food, drinks and skills). Alex
hey sorry im trying to download (for mac) but when i try to verify the game it claims the file is damaged? does anyone know if theres a fix for this :/
Hey there, I'm aware of one error that some MAC players are encountering, while I try to fix it, there is a work around one of the players informed me about. If your game will crash on the start please try this: Launch Terminal and then issue the following command:
xattr -cr /path/to/application.app For example: xattr -cr /Applications/Secret Care Cafe.app
I will try to fix it as soon as I will can. I'm very sorry for any problems. Alex
I'm going to start by saying that this is probably one of the most unique games in this platform, not only it is unique, but also the updates are frequent.
I don't remember this game being pushed at the top of the NSFW tag, so it was pushed by the other games out there to the bottom. Right now, because of this man's hard work, it's climbing up to make its mark.
It's been only 6 months since this game's debut, and it's going well. However, there are some more issues about this "unique" game.
Gameplay: 5 hours of total gameplay, 35 days in-game and in all honesty, I don't think I have progressed that much in the game. It's a really grindy game, I understand that but say if you're tasking a level 3 player to give a level 20 task, some might want to finish that task and stop playing the game after that or they'll decide to quit mid-quest. But I really love the idea of the game though, where it has this dining simulatoresque games that you can find anywhere but in an adult theme. Would be better if the game has "weekdays feature" where this certain customer will more likely to come in this day and say in the weekends, if the cafe is closed, you can get to talk to the girls more than one time because 1 time a day is really difficult for progressing. Also, can you please add a feature where you can click instead of dragging? It's just way easier than that.
Sound/Music: The music in the game only has like 3 tracks, and it gets quite boring when the same 2 music is repeated in my ears for an hour that it's actually forcing me to mute the game and play my own playlist in youtube that are copyright-free. Would be better if you have weekdays feature, different track will play on a certain day. It would also be a bit better and add more charm to the game if you give a bit more unique SFX to the dishes being served or add some ambience SFX to sprinkle some realism to it.
Rewarding system: This is where it fails flat, and I'm talking about the H-scene. It honestly feels like the H-scene reward jumped at the should-be 10th reward (and tbh, it doesn't feel like it) because the requirement for some of it is absurd considering that there are only few vanilla scenes. Say the lewdness for this character should be 100 in order to get this scene then that one item costs 800 cash for only 5 levels of lewd. Then you didn't read the latter part of the description that you need to do it with 2 characters. and what I meant by tbh, it doesn't feel like it is the lacks immersion. The BGM used for the scenes is the same as the BGM of the core gameplay, would be better if you add something kinky/romantic themed music to match the scene and there's also no SFX to it which makes it feels so unrewarding. It's a shame because the animation is well-made. Say you want to replay it in the gallery for later, unfortunately though, everything's still the same but worse, what I mean by worse is even the dialogue is removed.
That's everything about what I want to say in this one, got a little carried away because it's a really unique game and I am kind of into dining simulatoresque games lol. So best wishes to you and good luck on your journey.
been playing for the last two hours or so, not sure if i missed something or what. but how do you know when theres a new scene for a girl/how do you progress towards each scene?
Easiest way is to buy magnifying glass, this will unlock tips for gallery and chat menu. Remember to have nsfw mode ON. Mostly it is based on Favor and Lust of the maids. Because 'netorase' stuff is locked behind the 'Triangle Pin' item remember to equip them on the maids.
i tend to over think stuff but is this nsfw from the moment its open or do you have to enable it first? like i said i over think it and cant tell if the selector is what it said it is or if it means that it will be what it says once clicked. i have seen it where they worked both ways before
Hey there! Game starts with SFW ON, you have to click it either in Start Menu or in Main Menu. But if you saved the game with NSFW ON, it loads NSFW automatically each time, until you change it back to sfw. Selector states in what mode it is currently. Also when you change it to NSFW background graphic in Start Menu changes for more nsfw as an indicator!
Hey there! Many people asked about that. So my current plan for it is as follows: when we will be closer to final version, I will buy licenses for android (it's separate licenses in game maker) and I will try to update it to work on android and IOS! I've checked out the programming needed to make it touchscreen compatible and it shouldn't take too long to do. We will see when we get there!
For some reason, both downloads pause at 0.6Gb. The .zip file has a network error, then after I resume it, says the download is "forbidden", and the .rar file pauses (downloading only 0.0b) and only after I go into downloads and pause and resume the download do the network+forbidden thing.
Hey there! Just tested it on two different connections and both files downloaded correctly. There must be something happening with your connection. I used to see this kind of error while downloading in to cases: you've had some quick barely visible disconnections from the net and that disturbed downloading or you've been downloading file for too long and error popped out. Of course I'm not sure if either is happening and I cannot help you here, sorry. :(
Itch.io has a great download speed for it, so I don't think it's their server fault. Maybe try downloading through different browser?
Ah, the second option would make sense, as I have terrible WiFi. I switched to ethernet and the download finished fine. Thanks for letting me know about this, I'll be sure to use ethernet when downloading large games.
umm im unable to safe the game, like ive been through 9 days of the game and once i pressed save it crashes, then i tried again at day 2 and crashed, any way of fixing this?
Hey there! You have to specify because I didn't yet encounter that problem. When does it happen? On what OS are you trying to play? If it would be easier you can find me at Discord and we can try solve it on the DMs. Let me know! Alex
1st you need to add something like a skip day button for people that got so much money that it become trivial they just want to unlock scene by scene
2nd the food and drink drag to customer getting real repetitive and boring real quick i would suggest to just let it auto check mark watever the customer need as long as you have them in stock and a maid is there to "assist", i have a feeling you going to add in some kind of shop expansion so we wont be dealing with just 4 chairs 3 maids problem and customer constantly getting mad so that would eliminate that bit of head ache, may be switch out the food and drink bar for something "fun".
3rd may be add in option to upgrade the shop into a bar and we can have our main guy be bartender and maid getting frisky stuff 😉
Hey there! Thank you so much for trying out and for feedback!
Skip button will be added as an item to buy in the shop!
I don't know about auto-checking. I wanted for a player to have dynamic gameplay and with autocheck it becomes borefest (tested it in early stages). Maybe again I will add it as a ability (so after using it, for a limited time, it becomes autocheck and you only need to click the client) or a shop item or achievement? I will have to think about that. But you are right, it does get repetitive. I hope that more in-game events and bosses will change that.
As much as I like the idea of the girls working at a bar I would say this won't be added :P I still want this to be a cafe. But it is possible I will add a skin for a shop and girls, that you could buy in item shop and that would change the look of the place for the bar ;P
Again, thank you so much for checking the game out and for the suggestions! I hope you will like future releases!
oh you should checkout ~Be a maid in the Demon World~ The Secret Café of the Demon Angel Hero. it would give you an idea of what i mean auto check stuff yet it not boring since u can add in some mini game of getting tips ect.
Nice concept, but way too grindy. Stat increments to show new H-scenes for clients, and personal progress are way too high.
Should be more like every 25 points. most people don't want to grind 100 points for a single h-scene.
or allow gifts much earlier...
Suggestions: 1. You should be able to access the girls stats on the fly.
2. Should be a meter to indicate how "friendly" you gotten with the girls as to when you should expect a personal h-scene.
2.5. Should be a meter to indicate the next client based h-scene threshold.
example @ 50 75 100..etc
3. Consider allowing the MC to add rules for the girls like no intercourse. If you are gunna try to date these girls, you really do';t want them pumping every client. NTR really turns many people off.
4. Why does it take so long to open up gifts? that would alleviate the grind. this should be available as soon as you start making money.
5. There doesn't seem to be any goals, like no paying down a debt, or buying new things for the cafe, or adding new treats..or new outfits?
6. A h-scene gallery to know when you capped out is a must
7. only being able to talk to one girl per day is a bit.. much that makes grinding even more tedious.
Hey there! Thank you so much for all this feedback and thank you for playing! I'm very glad people take their time to play the game and write about it's problems. I'm still working on the game everyday to make it as good as I can! Slowly most of the things you've mentioned I will be correcting or changing. Below some information regarding you suggestions.
1. I do have a question to that, what do you mean access the girls stats on the fly? Like information in esc menu maybe?
2. This is the idea of the Favor stat. Unfortunately I still don't have all the scenes. Slowly in each build I'm adding them so hopefully in later builds it will be more distinguished.
2.5 I will have to include this information in tutorial maybe? Because basically its how it works. For special care pics you need Chat stat (0-25, 25-50, 50-75, 75-100,>100) and then there is lewdness/smugness that can change 100 chat pic for other. The same for flirt and take out. Please do consider that I still don't have all stat pics for Cookie and Rai. Still working on them.
3. This is a design choice that will have an effect on the endings. I will only say now that the player will have to learn should he be using abilities pass certain point? Or maybe lower their stats with [REDACTED]? Depends on what ending you will aim for.
4. Sorry, sorry. I'm working hard everyday to add as much as I can to the game. I will try to add at least some items in one of the next build (maybe 0.2.4? I will have to confirm it later)
5. Skins (outfits) and cafe looks is something I will think about adding after all the main features will be completed. It's not hard to implement (I already experimented with it) but takes a lot of time and I think more appealing for the players will be: bosses with special abilities that can help you if you satisfy them or makes your game harder if you won't, client rushes that will make your days full of 1 or 2 clients. In final version, main game will either end after certain number of days or after certain event. Paying off dept is something I also though about I am still not sure if I want it. I added this to my list of things to think about. We will see.
6. Gallery is a must! I agree and it will be implemented!
7. I though about it a lot during designing of this but I think it is enough. I still want player to choose between girls and 'harem' ending cannot be this easy to achieve.
Again, thank you so much for all the feedback. If you will have any more suggestions or critique, please do share it with me either here or on discord. I do want to make this game as great as I can.
Thanks for getting back to me. After dabbling a bit in rpgmaker MV, and unity myself it gives me a new found appreciation for the work that goes into these games.
This one I really enjoyed the concept. It has that casual day by day feel, and a bit of asset managment plus a side of visual novel. A little like that natuku fap ceo game. But this one isn't mind numbingly boring after a few clicks. You feel a bit more inclined to get to know the girls as actual characters rather than just something to beat off to.
To answer your questions:
1. (Question on stats on the fly)
Yes I was suggesting either a menu option or a mini window when you hover over the girls in the cafe. (While they are not working ) would be a nice quality of life upgrade.
Sounds like you are working hard and you already have a good workflow for the future.
Addressing favor items and placeholder abilities, it may be in your best interest to add a little tool tip for the players 'not implemented yet' just so they understand what they can an can't do yet.
Sometimes as a developer you need to look at it from the perspective of the player a bit more
As for 7. Ahh that makes more sense now. In that case if I'm going to choose a girl for example 'cookie' then I would want to heavily limit her sexual interaction with customers.
I have a bit of experience with these kinds of games, game playwise , story, editing, and playtesting. If you are looking for someone to collaborate with, or just bounce general theory off.
And.. I could also grill your game really hard if you'd like that kind of critique to as I've played and tinkered with quite a few mods some of the very best like illusion's artificial academy and their newer ones like ai girl.
I think I'll stop by the discord if you'll have me.
Thanks for coming back! 1. That's a good idea and I already added it to things to add. I think it would be better not to clutter the gameplay screen with more information if we hover over their idle animations but maybe show it after you click 'esc' (on the side?). We can think about it. I still lack a lot of core options (settings, gallery, bosses, endings and few more) but I'm actively working on the game. Slowly I will add everything that the game needs.
I'm very happy with how much work I am able to put to this game every week. All the support and interest I get from people really motivates me. Every time I get a little lazy I think about every follow/comment/patreon/view/download and I get back up to work on the game. I hope in the future more and more people will enjoy this game.
Regarding other topics I would love to hear more from you about every aspect of the game. I know it is not perfect and it probably never will be but I will make it as great as I will be able to. If you would like to and if you have time, please do contact me on my discord, we can discuss more.
Either way, thank you very much for your feedback as you gave me ideas and few topics to think about. Have a great week and hopefully I will hear from you soon! Rare Alex
The game is really awesome and got my attention. I don't know what you're planning for the future but it will be nice to see weather changes and events related to this. Maybe a pole dance stage inside the coffee (VIP section??) and some in-game animations when use the actions like special care, flirt... (because that picture takes too much time to fade)
Ps.: Not a Patreon yet, dollar is too expensive for me (brazilian), but as soon as possible I'll pledge for you.
Thanks for playing! I have few huge plans for the game, like bosses every few days, special events like clients rushes you have to prepare for few days if you want your popularity raised significantly (like patient rushes in Hospital games), special abilities for you to use during the gameplay and items to buy and use on your maids during chat events to raise theirs stats and also gallery for already seen events. Also I have few other ideas but these here will be the priorities for now! I will be updating my devlog here on itch.io and my patreon page every few days to let everyone know on what I'm currently working on.
Right now I'm ending client book programing - so after using "Give Number" ability on clients you will learn more about them, each time ability will be used on them and thanks to that you will know their 'stats'. This will help you to preprare for future events regarding previously mentioned Client Rushes!
Regarding pictures taking too long to fade, I will look into that and maybe shorten it by a little to speed it up!
Maybe I will do some kind of poledance special event, will keep that idea for future, thanks!
Thank you for being interested in a game and writing.
I hope you will enjoy next builds!
Have a great weekend!
Alex
Edit: Ah, and regarding Weather changes I will think about it after the game will be in later stages. Maybe I will even add some new cafe looks for special occasions like valentines day, hot summer days and Christmas? I will think about it. Thanks for the idea!
About the pictures taking too long to fade, actually the problem isn't the timing , but the picture itself covering the food icons. Maybe if you just move it a little will solve the issue.
Thanks for answering the messages, that makes us more confident about your work.
I was afraid it could be an issue. I will have to think about abilities animations. I still like the idea of them, because they change dependent on girls stats. Maybe I will make them smaller and on the bottom of the screen? I've put it in my 'to do' list, will see if I will get any better idea to deal with it, thanks!
I am very glad with the response I've received about the game. I know its not perfect (yet ;P) but I appreciate every one of peoples comments. I'm more then happy to listen to others suggestions and experiences they got from the game so I can learn and correct my mistakes.
Originally I though that maybe like 10 people will play it but seeing it got so much downloads and traffic exceeded my every expectation immensely... I'm so grateful to everyone for playing and enjoying the game!
I will do everything I can to make this game great, that's why I work on the game everyday!
Pictures changing according to the girl stats is really awesome because we don't know exactly what to expect when we perform an action. When a different picture comes, it's a surprise and this makes me go further and further to see another things like this. You mentioned that there is a secret inside the game that is undiscovered yet. Keep going on this secrets haha' it's very fun when there is something to discover. I saw someone on discord that write a review, if you don't mind, I'd like to do the same on future builds. (Sorry if I made some ortographyc mistakes, I don't know where I can use "in", "on" or "at" -_- / portuguese is better than english for me :D )
Edit: oh and if, in the future of the game, you want someone to translate it to brazilian portuguese, here I am ;)
I always loved secrets in games. Especially hidden story in otherwise normal game. I definitely will keep making them. Please do write a review when you will have time! I love reading about different views about my game and it helps me improve. But maybe wait till the few next builds (maybe 0.2.5 or 0.2.6?) because I still have a lot to change based on feedback :D
When I will be in need of translators I will definitely post about it! So keep that in mind. But it will be definitely later in development.
Hey there! Thank you so much for checking of the game! In the next build I will add possibility to fullscreen application and resize window. It won't be resolution change yet because this one is a little trickier. Resolution change will be added later. Have a great day! Alex
Hey there! Thank you very much for playing! Regarding your game-play, please do note that you can invite clients to your cafe if you put the Maid icon on the Invitation spot (Blinking arrow). I've put that information in tutorial. Hopefully you will try my new build that I will release today! Have a great day. Alex
Hey there, thank you for asking and playing! There will be settings yes. Regarding resolution this one is quite harder. You see I've started development with resolutions 1280x720 - All the gameplay and menu mechanics were build based on that small resolution.
But during that time I figured out that some people will want higher resolutions so I made all the next programing steps, like positions of objects, visual novel parts, decisions - universal. Even right now all the CG are in 1920 x 1080! I just scale them down to match the window.
TL;DR: Setting definitely yes, Resolution also yes but resolution can take me some time to rewrite some of the gameplay and menu code.
In case of any more questions or feedback don't be shy to write to me!
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Things really opened up once I figured out the game mechanics and started making money. The pics from abilities are a great bonus imo; I didn’t expect most of what I saw and I was really into the slippery slope that the girls went down😳
The animated cgs and the end of day events were great as well! Can’t wait for future updates!
Hey there!
Thanks for checking out the builds! There is a lot of content for both MC and for the clients. Most (not all) of the H events are for MC and most of the in-game cgs are for clients. Harem route is not existing yet (outside of valentines event). I do have plans for it but first I will be focusing on other parts of the game. First is important for me to create relationships of MC x each of the girls, that will transform into Harem possibility much later.
Have a great week!
Alex
Hey,
Of course MC scenes have CGs. With 'In-game' I was referring to the Gameplay-Loop part of the game (the part where you drag and drop maids, food, drinks and skills).
Alex
hey sorry im trying to download (for mac) but when i try to verify the game it claims the file is damaged? does anyone know if theres a fix for this :/
Hey there,
I'm aware of one error that some MAC players are encountering, while I try to fix it, there is a work around one of the players informed me about. If your game will crash on the start please try this: Launch Terminal and then issue the following command: xattr -cr /path/to/application.app For example: xattr -cr /Applications/Secret Care Cafe.app
I will try to fix it as soon as I will can.
I'm very sorry for any problems.
Alex
No worries! Thanks for addressing it at all, and I'll see if that method works. I appreciate it EDIT: it worked :D
I'm going to start by saying that this is probably one of the most unique games in this platform, not only it is unique, but also the updates are frequent.
I don't remember this game being pushed at the top of the NSFW tag, so it was pushed by the other games out there to the bottom. Right now, because of this man's hard work, it's climbing up to make its mark.
It's been only 6 months since this game's debut, and it's going well.
However, there are some more issues about this "unique" game.
Gameplay:
5 hours of total gameplay, 35 days in-game and in all honesty, I don't think I have progressed that much in the game. It's a really grindy game, I understand that but say if you're tasking a level 3 player to give a level 20 task, some might want to finish that task and stop playing the game after that or they'll decide to quit mid-quest.
But I really love the idea of the game though, where it has this dining simulatoresque games that you can find anywhere but in an adult theme.
Would be better if the game has "weekdays feature" where this certain customer will more likely to come in this day and say in the weekends, if the cafe is closed, you can get to talk to the girls more than one time because 1 time a day is really difficult for progressing.
Also, can you please add a feature where you can click instead of dragging? It's just way easier than that.
Sound/Music:
The music in the game only has like 3 tracks, and it gets quite boring when the same 2 music is repeated in my ears for an hour that it's actually forcing me to mute the game and play my own playlist in youtube that are copyright-free.
Would be better if you have weekdays feature, different track will play on a certain day. It would also be a bit better and add more charm to the game if you give a bit more unique SFX to the dishes being served or add some ambience SFX to sprinkle some realism to it.
Rewarding system:
This is where it fails flat, and I'm talking about the H-scene.
It honestly feels like the H-scene reward jumped at the should-be 10th reward (and tbh, it doesn't feel like it) because the requirement for some of it is absurd considering that there are only few vanilla scenes. Say the lewdness for this character should be 100 in order to get this scene then that one item costs 800 cash for only 5 levels of lewd. Then you didn't read the latter part of the description that you need to do it with 2 characters.
and what I meant by tbh, it doesn't feel like it is the lacks immersion.
The BGM used for the scenes is the same as the BGM of the core gameplay, would be better if you add something kinky/romantic themed music to match the scene and there's also no SFX to it which makes it feels so unrewarding. It's a shame because the animation is well-made.
Say you want to replay it in the gallery for later, unfortunately though, everything's still the same but worse, what I mean by worse is even the dialogue is removed.
That's everything about what I want to say in this one, got a little carried away because it's a really unique game and I am kind of into dining simulatoresque games lol. So best wishes to you and good luck on your journey.
Also, more vanilla harem scenes please.
been playing for the last two hours or so, not sure if i missed something or what. but how do you know when theres a new scene for a girl/how do you progress towards each scene?
Hey there!
Easiest way is to buy magnifying glass, this will unlock tips for gallery and chat menu.
Remember to have nsfw mode ON.
Mostly it is based on Favor and Lust of the maids. Because 'netorase' stuff is locked behind the 'Triangle Pin' item remember to equip them on the maids.
If you will have more questions feel free to ask.
Alex
much appreciated B)
i tend to over think stuff but is this nsfw from the moment its open or do you have to enable it first? like i said i over think it and cant tell if the selector is what it said it is or if it means that it will be what it says once clicked. i have seen it where they worked both ways before
Hey there!
Game starts with SFW ON, you have to click it either in Start Menu or in Main Menu. But if you saved the game with NSFW ON, it loads NSFW automatically each time, until you change it back to sfw.
Selector states in what mode it is currently. Also when you change it to NSFW background graphic in Start Menu changes for more nsfw as an indicator!
If something still isn't clear, feel free to ask!
This may be a stupid question but will you ever make a android version? Or will it take to long to redo it for another platform? The game is awesome.
Hey there!
Many people asked about that. So my current plan for it is as follows: when we will be closer to final version, I will buy licenses for android (it's separate licenses in game maker) and I will try to update it to work on android and IOS!
I've checked out the programming needed to make it touchscreen compatible and it shouldn't take too long to do. We will see when we get there!
For some reason, both downloads pause at 0.6Gb. The .zip file has a network error, then after I resume it, says the download is "forbidden", and the .rar file pauses (downloading only 0.0b) and only after I go into downloads and pause and resume the download do the network+forbidden thing.
Hey there!
Just tested it on two different connections and both files downloaded correctly. There must be something happening with your connection. I used to see this kind of error while downloading in to cases: you've had some quick barely visible disconnections from the net and that disturbed downloading or you've been downloading file for too long and error popped out. Of course I'm not sure if either is happening and I cannot help you here, sorry. :(
Itch.io has a great download speed for it, so I don't think it's their server fault. Maybe try downloading through different browser?
Ah, the second option would make sense, as I have terrible WiFi. I switched to ethernet and the download finished fine. Thanks for letting me know about this, I'll be sure to use ethernet when downloading large games.
When I unselected the 'fullscreen' option, my screen went black. I couldn't alt tab or open task manager. Ultimately I had to restart my computer.
Thanks for letting me know. I will look into that to see what could go wrong as you are the first to report this bug. Thanks!
umm im unable to safe the game, like ive been through 9 days of the game and once i pressed save it crashes, then i tried again at day 2 and crashed, any way of fixing this?
Hey there,
i'm very sorry about this bug. I will be updating the game on sunday so this bug will be dealt with.
I did put information regarding it in the post in 'devlogs', you can go and read about it:
https://rarealexturan.itch.io/secretcarecafe/devlog/202583/known-issues-bugs-and...
Again, sorry about the problem.
Have a great weekend and I hope you will check out the new releases.
Alex
"Secret Care Cafe has stopped working" How to fix?
Hey there!
You have to specify because I didn't yet encounter that problem.
When does it happen?
On what OS are you trying to play?
If it would be easier you can find me at Discord and we can try solve it on the DMs.
Let me know!
Alex
1st you need to add something like a skip day button for people that got so much money that it become trivial they just want to unlock scene by scene
2nd the food and drink drag to customer getting real repetitive and boring real quick i would suggest to just let it auto check mark watever the customer need as long as you have them in stock and a maid is there to "assist", i have a feeling you going to add in some kind of shop expansion so we wont be dealing with just 4 chairs 3 maids problem and customer constantly getting mad so that would eliminate that bit of head ache, may be switch out the food and drink bar for something "fun".
3rd may be add in option to upgrade the shop into a bar and we can have our main guy be bartender and maid getting frisky stuff 😉
Hey there!
Thank you so much for trying out and for feedback!
Skip button will be added as an item to buy in the shop!
I don't know about auto-checking. I wanted for a player to have dynamic gameplay and with autocheck it becomes borefest (tested it in early stages). Maybe again I will add it as a ability (so after using it, for a limited time, it becomes autocheck and you only need to click the client) or a shop item or achievement? I will have to think about that. But you are right, it does get repetitive. I hope that more in-game events and bosses will change that.
As much as I like the idea of the girls working at a bar I would say this won't be added :P I still want this to be a cafe.
But it is possible I will add a skin for a shop and girls, that you could buy in item shop and that would change the look of the place for the bar ;P
Again, thank you so much for checking the game out and for the suggestions! I hope you will like future releases!
Have a great day!
Alex
oh you should checkout ~Be a maid in the Demon World~ The Secret Café of the Demon Angel Hero. it would give you an idea of what i mean auto check stuff yet it not boring since u can add in some mini game of getting tips ect.
Nice concept, but way too grindy. Stat increments to show new H-scenes for clients, and personal progress are way too high.
Should be more like every 25 points. most people don't want to grind 100 points for a single h-scene.
or allow gifts much earlier...
Suggestions:
1. You should be able to access the girls stats on the fly.
2. Should be a meter to indicate how "friendly" you gotten with the girls as to when you should expect a personal h-scene.
2.5. Should be a meter to indicate the next client based h-scene threshold.
example @ 50 75 100..etc
3. Consider allowing the MC to add rules for the girls like no intercourse. If you are gunna try to date these girls, you really do';t want them pumping every client. NTR really turns many people off.
4. Why does it take so long to open up gifts? that would alleviate the grind. this should be available as soon as you start making money.
5. There doesn't seem to be any goals, like no paying down a debt, or buying new things for the cafe, or adding new treats..or new outfits?
6. A h-scene gallery to know when you capped out is a must
7. only being able to talk to one girl per day is a bit.. much that makes grinding even more tedious.
Hey there!
Thank you so much for all this feedback and thank you for playing!
I'm very glad people take their time to play the game and write about it's problems.
I'm still working on the game everyday to make it as good as I can! Slowly most of the things you've mentioned I will be correcting or changing. Below some information regarding you suggestions.
1. I do have a question to that, what do you mean access the girls stats on the fly? Like information in esc menu maybe?
2. This is the idea of the Favor stat. Unfortunately I still don't have all the scenes. Slowly in each build I'm adding them so hopefully in later builds it will be more distinguished.
2.5 I will have to include this information in tutorial maybe? Because basically its how it works. For special care pics you need Chat stat (0-25, 25-50, 50-75, 75-100,>100) and then there is lewdness/smugness that can change 100 chat pic for other. The same for flirt and take out. Please do consider that I still don't have all stat pics for Cookie and Rai. Still working on them.
3. This is a design choice that will have an effect on the endings. I will only say now that the player will have to learn should he be using abilities pass certain point? Or maybe lower their stats with [REDACTED]? Depends on what ending you will aim for.
4. Sorry, sorry. I'm working hard everyday to add as much as I can to the game. I will try to add at least some items in one of the next build (maybe 0.2.4? I will have to confirm it later)
5. Skins (outfits) and cafe looks is something I will think about adding after all the main features will be completed. It's not hard to implement (I already experimented with it) but takes a lot of time and I think more appealing for the players will be: bosses with special abilities that can help you if you satisfy them or makes your game harder if you won't, client rushes that will make your days full of 1 or 2 clients. In final version, main game will either end after certain number of days or after certain event. Paying off dept is something I also though about I am still not sure if I want it. I added this to my list of things to think about. We will see.
6. Gallery is a must! I agree and it will be implemented!
7. I though about it a lot during designing of this but I think it is enough. I still want player to choose between girls and
'harem'ending cannot be this easy to achieve.Again, thank you so much for all the feedback. If you will have any more suggestions or critique, please do share it with me either here or on discord. I do want to make this game as great as I can.
Have a great day!
Alex
Thanks for getting back to me. After dabbling a bit in rpgmaker MV, and unity myself it gives me a new found appreciation for the work that goes into these games.
This one I really enjoyed the concept. It has that casual day by day feel, and a bit of asset managment plus a side of visual novel. A little like that natuku fap ceo game. But this one isn't mind numbingly boring after a few clicks. You feel a bit more inclined to get to know the girls as actual characters rather than just something to beat off to.
To answer your questions:
1. (Question on stats on the fly)
Yes I was suggesting either a menu option or a mini window when you hover over the girls in the cafe. (While they are not working ) would be a nice quality of life upgrade.
Sounds like you are working hard and you already have a good workflow for the future.
Addressing favor items and placeholder abilities, it may be in your best interest to add a little tool tip for the players 'not implemented yet' just so they understand what they can an can't do yet.
Sometimes as a developer you need to look at it from the perspective of the player a bit more
As for 7. Ahh that makes more sense now. In that case if I'm going to choose a girl for example 'cookie' then I would want to heavily limit her sexual interaction with customers.
I have a bit of experience with these kinds of games, game playwise , story, editing, and playtesting. If you are looking for someone to collaborate with, or just bounce general theory off.
And.. I could also grill your game really hard if you'd like that kind of critique to as I've played and tinkered with quite a few mods some of the very best like illusion's artificial academy and their newer ones like ai girl.
I think I'll stop by the discord if you'll have me.
Hey again!
Thanks for coming back!
1. That's a good idea and I already added it to things to add. I think it would be better not to clutter the gameplay screen with more information if we hover over their idle animations but maybe show it after you click 'esc' (on the side?). We can think about it.
I still lack a lot of core options (settings, gallery, bosses, endings and few more) but I'm actively working on the game. Slowly I will add everything that the game needs.
I'm very happy with how much work I am able to put to this game every week. All the support and interest I get from people really motivates me. Every time I get a little lazy I think about every follow/comment/patreon/view/download and I get back up to work on the game. I hope in the future more and more people will enjoy this game.
Regarding other topics I would love to hear more from you about every aspect of the game. I know it is not perfect and it probably never will be but I will make it as great as I will be able to.
If you would like to and if you have time, please do contact me on my discord, we can discuss more.
Either way, thank you very much for your feedback as you gave me ideas and few topics to think about.
Have a great week and hopefully I will hear from you soon!
Rare Alex
Hello RareAlexTuran!
The game is really awesome and got my attention. I don't know what you're planning for the future but it will be nice to see weather changes and events related to this. Maybe a pole dance stage inside the coffee (VIP section??) and some in-game animations when use the actions like special care, flirt... (because that picture takes too much time to fade)
Ps.: Not a Patreon yet, dollar is too expensive for me (brazilian), but as soon as possible I'll pledge for you.
Hello there!
Thanks for playing! I have few huge plans for the game, like bosses every few days, special events like clients rushes you have to prepare for few days if you want your popularity raised significantly (like patient rushes in Hospital games), special abilities for you to use during the gameplay and items to buy and use on your maids during chat events to raise theirs stats and also gallery for already seen events. Also I have few other ideas but these here will be the priorities for now! I will be updating my devlog here on itch.io and my patreon page every few days to let everyone know on what I'm currently working on.
Right now I'm ending client book programing - so after using "Give Number" ability on clients you will learn more about them, each time ability will be used on them and thanks to that you will know their 'stats'. This will help you to preprare for future events regarding previously mentioned Client Rushes!
Regarding pictures taking too long to fade, I will look into that and maybe shorten it by a little to speed it up!
Maybe I will do some kind of poledance special event, will keep that idea for future, thanks!
Thank you for being interested in a game and writing.
I hope you will enjoy next builds!
Have a great weekend!
Alex
Edit:
Ah, and regarding Weather changes I will think about it after the game will be in later stages.
Maybe I will even add some new cafe looks for special occasions like valentines day, hot summer days and Christmas? I will think about it. Thanks for the idea!
Nice.. that will really improve gameplay.
About the pictures taking too long to fade, actually the problem isn't the timing , but the picture itself covering the food icons. Maybe if you just move it a little will solve the issue.
Thanks for answering the messages, that makes us more confident about your work.
I was afraid it could be an issue. I will have to think about abilities animations. I still like the idea of them, because they change dependent on girls stats. Maybe I will make them smaller and on the bottom of the screen? I've put it in my 'to do' list, will see if I will get any better idea to deal with it, thanks!
I am very glad with the response I've received about the game. I know its not perfect (yet ;P) but I appreciate every one of peoples comments. I'm more then happy to listen to others suggestions and experiences they got from the game so I can learn and correct my mistakes.
Originally I though that maybe like 10 people will play it but seeing it got so much downloads and traffic exceeded my every expectation immensely... I'm so grateful to everyone for playing and enjoying the game!
I will do everything I can to make this game great, that's why I work on the game everyday!
Thank you once again.
Have a great day!
Alex
Pictures changing according to the girl stats is really awesome because we don't know exactly what to expect when we perform an action. When a different picture comes, it's a surprise and this makes me go further and further to see another things like this. You mentioned that there is a secret inside the game that is undiscovered yet. Keep going on this secrets haha' it's very fun when there is something to discover. I saw someone on discord that write a review, if you don't mind, I'd like to do the same on future builds. (Sorry if I made some ortographyc mistakes, I don't know where I can use "in", "on" or "at" -_- / portuguese is better than english for me :D )
Edit: oh and if, in the future of the game, you want someone to translate it to brazilian portuguese, here I am ;)
I always loved secrets in games. Especially hidden story in otherwise normal game. I definitely will keep making them.
Please do write a review when you will have time! I love reading about different views about my game and it helps me improve. But maybe wait till the few next builds (maybe 0.2.5 or 0.2.6?) because I still have a lot to change based on feedback :D
When I will be in need of translators I will definitely post about it! So keep that in mind. But it will be definitely later in development.
Have a great day!
Alex
Will the next update allow full screen
Hey there,
Yes! The update 0.2.2 has window resizing and full screen!
Have a nice day!
Alex
This looks like an awesome game! Would there ever be a mac version?
Hey, thank you for trying it out!
Yup, there will be Mac Version when I will get a mac to test it. Maybe in a month or so!
Have a great day!
Alex
Im having a problem with maximizing the application is that on my end or is there something I can do
Hey there!
Thank you so much for checking of the game!
In the next build I will add possibility to fullscreen application and resize window.
It won't be resolution change yet because this one is a little trickier. Resolution change will be added later.
Have a great day!
Alex
good to know thanks
Show post...
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Hey there!
Thank you very much for playing!
Regarding your game-play, please do note that you can invite clients to your cafe if you put the Maid icon on the Invitation spot (Blinking arrow). I've put that information in tutorial.
Hopefully you will try my new build that I will release today!
Have a great day.
Alex
请问下次更新时间，大概需要多久
Hey there!
Thank you for asking! The next update (0.2.1) is planned for the night of 11.10.2020! So only 4 more days!
For more info what will be in the update you can go to my devblog, that I just updated!
Have a great day and hopefully you will enjoy next update!
Alex
Cool game. I'm aware that a save system will be implemented but will we get settings and the ability to change the resolution as well?
Hey there, thank you for asking and playing!
There will be settings yes. Regarding resolution this one is quite harder. You see I've started development with resolutions 1280x720 - All the gameplay and menu mechanics were build based on that small resolution.
But during that time I figured out that some people will want higher resolutions so I made all the next programing steps, like positions of objects, visual novel parts, decisions - universal. Even right now all the CG are in 1920 x 1080! I just scale them down to match the window.
TL;DR: Setting definitely yes, Resolution also yes but resolution can take me some time to rewrite some of the gameplay and menu code.
In case of any more questions or feedback don't be shy to write to me!
I love it.........
IS there any problem with save and love
Hey, thank you for checking it out! I'm glad you like it!
Right now I'm working on save/load function. It will be ready in 0.2.1 version, soon! :D
保存不
Yea, save/load wasn't yet implemented because I had few problems/bugs with it.
Save / load will be available in the next build.
Thank you for checking the game out!